Can't take out cash at ATM anymore and they are dancing around that with lies and excuses. You will pay a bitcoin miner fee and a fee to them just to load your card. Today it would of cost me $6 just to load my card for $25. Bitpay has fallen very hard from where it use to be. There are so many other options and they refuse to evolve, they are doing the opposite. Bitpay is really worthless now.